Thomas Sowell – Liberal Policy wreaks havoc on Blacks



Thomas Sowell explores the legacy of the Liberal Welfare State and compares it to the legacy of slavery. Charles Murray outlines his Universal Basic Income …




33 thoughts on “Thomas Sowell – Liberal Policy wreaks havoc on Blacks

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    My opinion is that the welfare system should be completly removed. Give people 10 years to get themselves together, and slowly remove the welfare system. There should be no assistance from the government besides some things like affordable housing which should just be smaller apartment complexe's with cheaper rent which once you reach a certain income level you have to move out of instead of what they do now which is allow you to stay there and just increase the rent. There's people making $35,000-$60,000 living in affordable housing. $35,000 after tax is about $27,000 for a single person, for $60,000 it's about $49,000 after tax for a single person. Divide those 2 by 12 and $27,000 is $2,250 a month and $4,083 a month. Average rent is $1,500 in New York, an expensive city for a 1 bedroom. It's tough for the person making $27,000 yes, but is it impossible?

    No, because that person is suppose to be saving money, getting raises, budgeting etc. before they even move out of affordable housing correct? People stay in affordable housing for 10-20 years, and they have zero savings because they blew their money and racked up debt that drains there income on top of rent, THAT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENTS FAULT and it's not the government's job to worry about the debt you incurred on yourself. if you get thrown on the street because you didn't budget, it is what it is, it would teach people to be more responsible, but instead the government keeps bailing people out just like they do the banks, and don't let people face consequences of being irresponsible with money.

    In 10 years, your income taxes alone of $800-$1200 as a low income earner would be $8,000-$12,000 if saved, in addition to your normal savings, even if you could only save $1000 a month as a couple, for 10 years, you'd have $18,000-$22,000 in your savings, plus you and your spouse would have gotten better jobs by then or income increases. I lived in affordable housing for a long while, I see what's going on here and most of the people are just irresponsible with their money, I was as well until about 2 years ago, and I'm nearly done paying off my debts and planning to move next year which I could have been done even at a lower wage job because 10 years prior my bills were much lower than now living with parents.

    Where I come from in New York, welfare is automatic, child support is automatic. I don't know a single woman that said, hey I'm good, I don't need assistance, it's just by default, they get pregnant and the plan is get assistance even if the man is there with them. it's ingrained in the black community at this point.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    referring to a black person as an African-American is incorrect. Not all black people come from Africa. It's like saying you're English if you're white.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    First I find it funny that the video speaks to blacks and all the opinions voiced in the comment section are talking about welfare. White Americans are the largest recipient of the welfare state.
    Secondly it would be foolish to compare crime rates and the social atmosphere from the 30's, 40's, and 50's to the current day from anywhere not just the inner cities. Crime has escalated everywhere. People in suburban America kept their doors unlocked in the past but you would be hard pressed to find anyone who would make that a common practice now. And white people now can once again walk through Harlem unmolested due to a common practice called "Gentrification".
    Third he makes a few valid point but it still doesn't obsolve the fact that white Americans benefit from an economic advantage produced during slavery. All of the countries major financial institutions were built on slavery. Thats historical fact not just the statistical rhetoric that both the left and right both love to propagate. Until there is a redistribution of the wealth in this country to rectify the effects of slavery economically then no one should attempt to talk about equity, equality, etc.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    In other words: "yeah, we'll give you some cash – a very minute sum – but we will make all your decisions for you. You will do with it what we say. After all, you're too stupid and ugly to figure out what to do witj it yourself."

    The inflationary pressures this would produce are staggering.

    Interesting that Bill Kristol is nodding in agreement with him. LOL True colors, much?

    "The problem with socialism (UBI) is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money."

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Tolerance will be recorded as the key to this generation. 100 years from now people viewing
    Content form our era will laugh at the lefts thinking.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Liberals are allowing the Negro to think that he has freedom thus he goes around and violates the behavior rules and gets thrown in jail ?? Deceived

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    If you CONTINUALLY and routinely embrace stupidity / dependency then you will continue to get what you have always been getting ??
    Negroes ,not blacks are headed towards Slavery again as they slowly gravitate towards dependancy SOCIALISM ?? 
    Negroes already embrace Islam ,Democrats and they both sell the dream , and are control freaks demanding allegiance ? (JIM JONES )
    Slavery appears to be INHERENT / permanent with Negroes as they seem to easily gravitate , drift, be drawn towards groups / unions etc that demand control because Negroes want to be needed , led and managed thus are prime candidates to revisit slavery again and again ?? Sounds like the twilite zone ??
    Its human nature to recognize this dependency and exploit it
    This is why the negroes are in 4 th place in a 4 person race
    Negro priorities of dance – delights of the skin- and Emotion are exploited all the time While the perpetual winner is the one who WORKS all the time ??
    These outside opportunist groups know this and target Negroes and their dependency ?

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    in regards to the UBI i know that the welfare state has taken it drains on funds what would be an interesting topic is what do we do as so many jobs are mechanized or things like truck drivers eventually become replaced through self/drone driving. theres an idea that everyone just somehow becomes a coder etc but companies are eliminating massive amounts of jobs and within that how do you deal with the influx of displaced workers in the real world not a world where we should expect everyone to become tech people or plumbers. there are only so many jobs to go around in comparison to the population size. is there any other time in history where we have become so efficient as a species that we displace work? or is this truly a new paradigm with no real throw back historically as to how to handle it?

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Anything Bill Crystal agrees with as far a I am concerned is not good.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Hi Zerofox Given. How were you able to retrieve the interviews and use them in your video? I'm interested in pursuing a similar venture and was curious to what tech and programs allow you to accomplish that.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    In regards to Universal Basic Income, my question is this: Say you completely remove the welfare state that currently exists and implement a UBI of approximately $13,000/yr. Now, in a perfect world let's say getting rid of the current welfare state has helped pay for the hugely expensive UBI, everything is more streamlined, and all is right in the world. 

    Now, let's say things are going pretty well for the first year or so but suddenly it becomes clear to everyone in the country that left to their on devices, humans are flawed, and a noticeable minority are being irresponsible with their government income which comes from taxing the super wealthy. The woman making $10,000 a year still gets pregnant somehow, the addict spends most of that money on feeding his addiction, and the homeless person uses it mostly for food but doesn't get a job to supplement his income and so he's still without shelter and comfort. 

    Do you think the bleeding heart left will throw up their hands and say 'well, they had their chance and they blew it, too bad."? Or, do you think they will then implement additional welfare programs to provide more assistance and suddenly you have a UBI welfare state plus something that looks like the current welfare state?

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    On the legacy of slavery: slavery has had an undeniable impact on African American people. The reasoning is simple logic. Trauma is passed down, in a way, through generations. Someone who had spend their whole life as a slave, and had developed a pathological psyche because of that experience, will raise their children differently. Parents have a huge impact of the mental development of their children and the 'quirks' of a parent's psychology has a good chance of rubbing off on their children for this reason. The world has a way of reverting this but it still happens.

    With that said, slavery seems to be a poor reason for the state of many African American communities today. After all, slavery ended with the civil war. There were a great many non-African people who were horribly traumatized by that war. It difficult to compare these two traumas, slavery and prolonged war, but they seem to be roughly within the same upper tier of horror. Then there was also WW2 which exposed many American men to life changing experiences. African Americans were there but in smaller numbers.

    There is also the matter of successful African Americans. There are a great many them who live in happy middle class homes and even many that rise up into the 1%. How did these people do it? Similarly, there are many non-African-Americans who are in just as much poverty and destitution. Why are they struggling in tandem despite not having the legacy of slavery on their shoulders?

    All told, I can't see a reasonable way for slavery to explain the situation. Most every civilization or peoples have gone through horrible events on par with enslavement and total warfare. I think there are some individual blood lines where people simply never recovered, even all these generations later, but that is something like winning a local lottery. I think the real solution is, well, I don't think you'd believe me to be honest. What Mr. Sowell says here is effectively addressing the cause in a round about way so I hope his message gets out there. Too many people are wallowing away for nothing.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Just like everything, it sounds like a good idea. But will it be in reality?

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    The white guy advocating for a universal guaranteed income is so naive when it comes to women not wanting to have children. Even if he is right, politicians will bring back welfare because irresponsible women and men will continue to have children, to these people children are an afterthought.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    The Majority of black children(69%) in the U.S. grow up in single parent households that's true.. I disagree with the uncle Tom Sowell in regards to liberal policies being the culprit… because it was policies by Republican President Richard Nixon's "War on Drugs" that single-handedly destroyed the black family …if you look at the decline in two-parent households it started at the same time as the War on Drugs which really should be renamed the "war against black poor people" because that's what it was..another racist republican policy, it was not liberal policies that destroyed the black family and two parent households but evil racist republicans policies as usual … the entire Justice System in America is based off of racist, corrupt policies by corporate Republicans and corporate Democrats… the entire system needs reform.. anyone democrat or republican that is advocating for the status quo of these institutions are not liberals that's why I only vote for "Justice Democrats" like Alexandria ocasio-cortez Democrats that do not take money from Wall Street or have money packs funded by corrupt greedy corporations will be the only Democrats that I vote for f##k corporate Democrats and corporate Republicans they are against the working people…
    Jeff sessions is a former Republican Attorney General.who fought hard to continue the racist war on drug practices that have destroyed more black families than I can count there is no Republican I would vote for.. they all seemed okay with racist candidates like Donald Trump and Jeff sessions… yuk… why would any black person that's not a uncle Tom vote for these racist politicians called republicans??? Lmao… we know who our enemies

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    The problem with the some blacks,(not all, not all, not all but most) They are still pissed off about something that happen 135 years ago. Talking about holding/having a grudge, imagen being borne to the fact you have a "ready made grudge" to live the rest of your life, and, with no possible resolution because everyone responsible is dead. You had nothing to do with it, they had nothing to do with it but your taught/expected to be a victim the rest of your life and blaming it on someone else who is not at fault,. That's one of the worst, self inflicted saddest, un-fixing , existence, I`ve ever seen, Just sayin…

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    I`m coining a new identity category , "black privilege"….
    So, this is when black folk `think 'they have control with their life but in reality their controlled by the left, and black "race baiters" that care nothing about the black man,(Sharpton, Jackson etc.) if this was not so, how come the black man has declined steadily since the beginning of the civil rights laws? In 1960 78% of black fathers was at home married with children , but now, 79% baby's borne out of wedlock in the black community and no father. Riddle me that, Batman!

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    If a UBI were implemented in the prescribed way. It might actually work the only problem I see is the paradigm shift that’s gonna be required. Lots of folks in that fine grey area between actually able to make it and not able. If their thinking is off or the US gov fucks it up, most likely, they’re royally screwed.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Totally agree.. Could be good or bad..
    Given the state of Congress the last, ever.. I doubt it will be implemented well.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    If only similar systems hadn't been tried with disastrous results, then Murray would be onto something. Ubi would just inflate and disincentivate (not a real word but it rhymed) why not just have the frr market he is talking about without the ubi, and let people donate to charity to help the struggling.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    OK, listened again. Finland and Canada STOPPED their UBI experiments. Why? Turns out when you pay people to NOT work, they DON'T. Surprise? NO. Venezuela, Zimbabwe, N. Korea, anyone?

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    UBI is a liberals way of admitting they don’t have a clue as to how to create a job.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Black people chose to vote for Liberals so Liberals aren't doing anything the Blacks didn't do to themselves.
    Black people needs to learn to take responsibility for their own choices.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    There is something that is often forgotten to be brought up in these kinds of debates: the prevalence, in western culture, to focus on intellect, cognitive ability, and the ever-increasing complexity in even low skilled labor jobs and its part in our society. The two political sides in our culture have a philosophical position on people and their ability to work. The right says: Well if people stop being lazy and just started working hard, there would be less of a problem; the left says: we need to start training people for jobs that will pay more because anyone can be trained to do them. Both are wrong but the left is even more wrong about this than the right. You can't train people who score an IQ of 90-100 to be a scientist or an engineer. While it is true that our average intelligence is increasing, you need a minimum score of 130 in order to understand the complex concepts that such professions grapple with. Jordan Peterson talks about this problem (For more on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd4zLIHIMWA), but the basics are this:

    The US military is constantly starving for bodies, both in wartime and peacetime. They have done great research on IQ, and have experience in trying to utilize low IQ troops in the Vietnam theater (also known as McNamara's Boys or McNamara's Morons). To say that the results were disastrous would be such an understatement that you'd have to drum up a new definition for the word. After that, they came up with a ruling on the matter: no person with an IQ score below 83 would be allowed into the military. The amount of the US population that score that low is 10 % of the population. Basically, in spite of the need for personnel, 10 % of the population was a far greater problem than an asset. In this age that focuses on complexity and intellect, even the simplest jobs now require scores that require the person to score 85+ with those of higher intellect and cognitive ability being more valuable and therefore more prioritized. This means that 10% of all people in our society (if not more) simply have no job for them and therefore no place in our society. This is a problem we desperately need to solve and just giving them money isn't a good solution.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Like all great ideas, when run through a government that's already this bought off, it gets butchered into something even worse than what it's trying to fix. If people want to try any various form of welfare state then fine, I just need an option to not participate. I'll build my own road and protect myself and If I burn my house down then shame on me. I would rather live off the land in the bush than have to hope the government will actually be efficient at anything other than killing people.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    Mr.Sowell is a brilliant man..

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    A bit of a bait and switch of a topic at the end there…

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    I never imagined I would hear a libertarian argue for universal basic income. Interesting ideas he put forth though.

  • March 17, 2019 at 11:04 am
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    as to the 1st part with dr sowel hes a damn samrt American……as to the 2nd part of this video on universal basic income……anyone who thinks a universal basic income is a good idea or that it could even work in the long runas in for centuries….is so dumb they probally shouldnt be allowed to breathe much less breed……

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