Renowned Black Intellectual John McWhorter Compares Evergreen State College with Islamic State



Talk about podcast with Professor Glenn Loury and Professor John McWhorter, two prominent black intellectuals. Their take on the goings on at The Evergreen …




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  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Remove all SJW jobs on campus. Get rid of militant angry hate fill staff, All -colour RACIST staff. Re educate that BLACKS can be VERY UGLY RACIST. Black Supremacy is UGLY & ALIVE

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    And so the jackboots of the snowflakes can be heard hey ho, ing across the campus. In the halls, in the library, as gangs in their droves terrified bullied and THREATENED the staff and faculty!
    Hey hey, hey ho!
    Heil Hitler

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    I assume its Negroes like these two that are called coon or as the Dishonorable Tariq Nasheed would call Suspected White Supremacist. I think Tariq would give them Coon Awards. If you dont what Coon Awards are search here on Youtube. Its hilarious.
    Oh shit. He said a no no. Hes not worried about Trump being elected. Lost his black card on that one.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    These guys need to talk with Jordan B Peterson to red pill them about the origin of these SJWs and Islamic terrorism going on, along with all the other shit today – i.e. fundamentally postmodernism.
    On a side note what it seems to me that the people who support these movements are fundementally of the same ideological ilk as these guys but on different degrees. What i mean by that is fundementally modern neo-liberalism. Notice how he seems to imply that structural racism and microagression (lesser SJW bullshit) exist but this shit (i.e. segregation, a more extreme SJW bullshit) should not exist and that whites are not inherently racist (cause that is racist in itself no shit).
    It's like different degrees of insanity, where they believe the lesser forms of them but reject more extreme ones. I believe that fundementally those who are following the extreme ones were in the same boat as the more sane ones like these guys, and at one point also believed the lesser bullshit. It seems that a solution to this brainwashing is to expose them to radically extreme bullshit that they have not yet gradually been normalized to (like instead of giving them "2" after they've normalized "1", give them like "3" or "8" or something higher in degree that they are not ready for), cause then they'd be like "no that crosses the line" (as we see here) and then they'd get skeptical to the whole ideology seeing how vile and corrupt it is and eventually leaving it. This seems to be the only way to get out of this form of brainwashing, because if you're not "shocked" by the overly extreme degree of it, you'll just gradually adapt to the degrees one step at a time until you reach that same degree that you would otherwise be "shocked" of, and I think that's how we got here with thousands of SJWs pushing such inhumane and unbelievable extremes such as racism and segregation in the 21st century all whilst rejecting racism and segregation.
    Like I say this because this is a constant theme i've been seeing with liberals and those on the left.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Again I am astonished at how many people gave this a thumbs down. It leads one to believe that it is the very people we are talking about. The silent majority has decided to speak up and some people just can't handle it. No Rhyme or Reason can change their way of thinking! AND I would like to compliment you on this video.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    THERE IS NO REASON TO ARTICULATE ." FUCK OFF RACIST MONKEY" !!!!

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Hi everybody, my name is Chris and I’m a WAM. … A White Anglo-Saxon Masochist. … And, boy, I can’t wait to enroll in Evergreen College!

    As a perpetually-afraid, God-fearing masochist, I can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to the first time I’m told at Evergreen College that I can’t speak just because I’m white — and then I go ahead and speak anyway. What fun it’ll be to get yelled at and ridiculed just because I’m white. … How thrilling it'll be to show up at the Halloween Dance, shades lighter, dressed as an albino.

    I can hardly wait. Sign me up!

    Now, about this fellow Bret Weinstein. …

    We’re soulmates, kindred spirits. I mean, he’s a masochist, too, right? He must be. He didn’t do anything wrong; in fact, he’s a brave and courageous and principled individual — and what happens? — he gets yelled at and ridiculed and hunted down. What a college! (“Squeal like a witch! Squeal like a witch!”)

    I’m afraid I must correct Comrade Weinstein when he talks about the “educational model” at Evergreen College. Comrade Weinstein is talking about the Evergreen College educational model that existed in the 1970s — surely he’s not referring to the educational model that currently exists at Evergreen College. (Come now, Bret, being a masochist is one thing, but cognitive dissonance, too?)

    In the 1970s, Evergreen College was at the forefront of progressive, enlightened, left-wing academia, now it’s a joke. … And ain’t that wonderful! … Think of it, once I’m enrolled at Evergreen College I can write to all my friends back home and say, “Hey, I‘m a student at Evergreen College!” and when I come home for the holidays they can all come over to my house and laugh their asses off mocking me out.

    (Life now’days is so gooood for a masochist, isn’t it?)

    As a guilt-ridden, perpetually frightened, God-fearing White Anglo-Saxon Masochist — by the way, we call ourselves “Wammies” for short — as a guilt-ridden, perpetually frightened, God-fearing White Anglo-Saxon Masochist, I know I’d feel right at home in the goose-stepping, totalitarian environment Evergreen College has now become. Wouldn’t it be great, wouldn’t it be just thrilling if I got out of line (you know, “uppity”) and I was beaten about the head & shoulders with a wet noodle by some big black African-American mammy.

    (Mammy whacking a Yammy. … Get it? … Come on, you gotta love it.)

    What’s that? What’s that you say? Oh no! Say it isn't so! Evergreen College’s beloved president, a.k.a. “Boy George” is in a bit of trouble. You don’t say. … Gee, I wonder why. … What’s that? He may get booted from his job. Well, we need to do something about that, don’t we now? … HIT IT, MAESTRO!

    ~ Evergreen was having trouble, what a sad, sad story. ~

    ~ Needed a new leader to restore its former glory. ~

    ~ Where oh where is he, where can that man be? ~

    ~ We looked around and then we found the man for you and me. ~

    ~ And now it’s springtime for Evergreen and Germany. ~

    ~ Da-da-da-da. ~

    ~ Richard Simmons is happy and gay. ~

    ~ We’re marching to a faster pace. ~

    ~ Look out here comes the Master Race! ~

    ~ Springtime for Evergreen and Germany. ~

    ~ Da-da-da-da. ~

    ~ Winter for Poland and France. ~

    ~ Springtime for Evergreen and Germany. ~

    ~ Racists, go into your dance! ~

    (A recent Evergreen graduate pops his head out from behind the curtain):

    ~ I was taught to be race-mean, I was taught at Evergreen. ~

    (“Boy George” shuffles onstage):

    ~ Don’t be stupid, be a smartie, come and join the bigots’ party. ~

    (The Evergreen Faculty comes onstage dressed as The Rockettes, kicking each other in the ass):

    ~ Springtime for Evergreen and Germany. ~

    ~ Goosestep's a new step today. ~

    ~ Bombs falling from the skies again. ~

    ~ Deutschland is on the rise again! ~

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hs

    Oh, I can't tell you how excited I am. I can’t wait to enroll at good ole Evergreen College. They’ll be so many empty seats in the classrooms. So many vacant dorm rooms to choose from. And parking — hey, I bet by the time I enroll Evergreen’s beloved president will be shining shoes and valeting the students’ cars for them. (“Booooooy!”)

    What fun it’ll be, running buck-naked through the Evergreen campus yelling: “I AM WHITE, I AM UNCLEAN! I AM WHITE, I AM UNCLEAN!”

    I wonder what President George will look like on Halloween. Hmmm, I wonder. … https://is.gd/rHeSFt

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    4:30 – When he mentions "quasi-religious" aspects of political correctness, I couldn't agree more, but it goes deeper than people think.

    Because, I'd guess the majority, of people on the regressive left are atheists they've gone and replaced God with a new abstract concept and that's "social justice", if you notice, "social justice" is never actually properly defined, sure anti-sexism is a form of "social justice, anti-racism is a form of social justice" but the term and the end goals are either loosely defined or not defined at all.

    The problem is that when you get rid of God and the idea of heaven, for the majority of people who's lives may not be brilliant, they need to know that there's something better, being religious allows the hope that something better exists beyond the veil. If you're non-religious you're left with few options.

    Nationalism is on the surface about national pride, but it goes deeper because it's about myth-making of the nation's past and some belief in the dream, the destiny of the nation, this means that the remaining form of immortality that exists after the destruction of God, is your children, and you want to build a better nation for your children and pass that on.

    Alternatively you can use the abstract notion of "social justice" and that progress will continue ad infinitum, thus giving you something for which to work.

    However both of these alternatives require an imposition upon other people, they are both exclusionary. Whereas notions of God, heaven, reincarnation etc. took things out of the material realm and placed the ultimate responsibility in the hands of a distant deity, both nationalism and social justice place responsibility firmly in the hands of the believers. It makes humans the ultimate arbiters and thus energises them to crusade for their cause, raise their kids to be true believers, evangelise in the name of their cause and purge the heretics from their ranks.

    Unfortunately for many of the idealists like Dawkins (of whom I am a fan), they have had the benefit of the education required to be stunned by the magnificence of science. Huge numbers of people within Western civilisation don't know the first thing about science, beyond basic school level stuff (see the time-honoured dihydrogen monoxide test). We are a civilisation built on science and empiricism but the people who actually do the science are very few by comparison to the general population. The rest of the population may not have time for a full explanation of God, science, social justice or nationalism, but many need something to give the continuity of their life meaning, to give them a sense of purpose, even acts of charity are out of reach for those who perhaps don't have sufficient to give.

    So when people make comparisons between social justice and religion, it's actually a deeper comparison than you'd think at first glance.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    This is absolutely a trend across all Humanity, and not limited to any particular belief or group. Extremism and intolerance is growing across all lines and all beliefs across all societies and all countries across ALL HUMANITY.

    True liberals are around tolerance and wide acceptance of each other. These people being labeled "Liberal" are truly "Anti-Liberal".

    But, this growing radicalism is on all sides. It is not just Islamic radicalism or Evergreen State style radicalism, it is Republican radicalism, Democratic radicalism, Christian radicalism, USA nationalistic radicalism, Russian nationalistic radicalism, Chinese nationalistic radicalism, etc, etc, etc… We are heading to World War Three because the vast majority seem to want war, regardless of the reason.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    I love Loury's podcasts. Great find and commentary. The most hilarious thing about the Evergreen situation, as with all the more recent college and University blowouts is, that if you're going to Evergreen you are not oppressed by anybody and you are in fact privileged.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Soft snowflake cunts. See what happens when you take away bullying.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    remember I'll last president and his crazy wife that's all racism everywhere they looked when they said get in your neighbor's face now they're getting in your neighbor's face and this is what it is

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    this is leftist indoctrination Marxism it's going on throughout all the colleges and our great nation we have to get a handle on this or else the only thing that will come from this is blood and a lot of it

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    This was a great conversation between these two men. And your question about how the students would view John McWhorter (as being a white supremacist??) would probably be answered with something equally disturbing as the rest their logic. The students buying into this groupthink are only going to bring turmoil into their lives, at every turn.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    John McWhorter: "I'm beginning to wonder if something isn't going on world-wide."

    John…you've got one eye open… now open the other, and wake up.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Well, that's just great. Let's have a national day of absence re white folks staying away from their jobs: police, fire, EMS, staff at emergency hospitals, transportation, i.e. airlines, AMTRAK, commuter trains, freight trains, buses, trams, taxi cabs, department stores, local, county, state, and federal offices, public utilities, i.e. electric, gas, sewage, garbage disposal, schools, etc. In fact, I think a month of absence to show our solidarity with blacks who suffer from micro and macro aggression would be much better. What say you?

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    These people are brainwashed communist useful idiots. Watch a video on YouTube about a former KGB Propagandist called Yuri Bezmenov: Deception was my Job. it's from the 1980's but it's relevant to today.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Right-on!!! SO true! Profound & vitally needed discussion.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    I've been watching with horror some of the Evergreen videos tonight. I say that as a student of critical theory, a Marxist of sorts, about as left wing as they come. Let me tell you, these people, while 'left wing', are alien to me. My studies mean that I am intent on trying to understand them. I think one could probably evince a common thread of totalitarianism/fascism in these students which they wold not countenance. The first and most significent piece of evidence for this would be their rampant inability to let others speak, to actually engage in conversation. This is a typical fascist technique.

    Identity politics is not, to my mind, in any way compatible with Marxism. I would argue that it is born out of an understanding of the world determined in part by market metrics. But it's 01:28am and I need to sleep.

    Thanks for posting this.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    These helicopter parented children can not cope with anyone disagreeing with them. Pathetic!

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Thank God not all left wing intellectuals are blind to the dangers of Islam and Sharia law.
    As for the actions of the students they can see what would happen in the future when the situation changes, what would happen if white students behaved the way these black students are, it would be horrific!

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    This should not be shocking at all. The left has taught college students to be racist for years and now the chickens have come home to roost.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    I don't see the problem as social media, I see the problem as RELIGION. As in the act of relying on faith rather than fact. Faith in God or faith in racism; they're both equally dangerous to humanity.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    The Evergreen thing? Easy peasy. Reinstitute actual grading instead of pass/fail. Half those students are at Evergreen because they cannot qualify for anywhere else. Eliminate safe spaces, bring back real curriculums and make it plain that disruptive behavior will be met with expulsion. When students act like children, they need to be disciplined like children.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    thank you
    I went to Evergreen for 3 years I just graduated couple years ago. seems like I got out just in time. cuz I argued and debated the whole time I was there. I was not very popular to say the least

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    initiating war in the name of Islam is bida or to put it as you did a recent invention. Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Said ibn al-Musayyab from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "A strong person is not the person who throws his adversaries to the ground. A strong person is the person who contains himself when he is angry."

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    Right on the mark, Dr. McWhoter, don't send your children to Evergreen.  It's for your kids own good because a degree from Evergreen won't be mean much.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    These two seem reasonably intelligent and yet they blame social media for the problem. I would have thought the victimhood ideology these students and others have been forced fed through out their education a greater influence. It is these professor's peers who have created the problem and yet it appears they have not quite grasped that yet. It is not like this is just some isolated case. There are the Berkley riots and other campus problems preventing free speech. Hopefully more left leaning people wake up.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    What the left has utterly failed to understand, is that overreach to the point of lunacy on a principle such as equality, sows the seeds for the next generation to reject the very notion of equality, out of hand. They are poisoning the well of equality and laying the foundations for canonizing inequality for the future.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    "These guys are liberal, but from what they're going to say it might be hard to tell."
    Geeze, it's almost like liberals aren't a singular group and some of us don't like what's happening to our political ideology.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    True liberals, just like Bret Weinstein. Those idiot students and other millenials are just insane.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    I woke up and am taking one of the biggest shits in my life. I'm watching this video while doing it. It helps. Thanks.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    I'm not sure what leftist sjw are drinking or eating but they have gone more insane. I think trump makes them angry.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    The end game of affirmative action is exactly what you're seeing at Evergreen.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    It is good to see a wider segment of politics acknowledging the problem. What theae two guys don't appear to realise is that this is not merely a function of recent social media. This can be traced back through several centuries of socialist and post modernist thought. Read Stephen Hicks book Explaining Postmodernism if you are interested in the bigger picture.

  • December 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
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    So sad………..all the guns in America yet no one has gone postal on their asses yet.

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